New Dashboard UI

[CLD92]

I am no longer able to find the download button under my favorites in order to download my favorite sentences to a file? Any help?

[barcarolle]

Hi @Mike! What happen to my dashboard? I have a blank screen. Can’t use the Clozemaster. It’s funny that just two days ago I said I loved it. Well, nothing to love today. Please help.

[mike]

@CLD92 we’ve removed that feature for now, sorry. How were you using it?

@barcarolle sorry about that! What browser and OS are you using?

[barcarolle]

All good now. Thanks!

[zzcguns]

The use of the download option for Favorites was mentioned a couple of days ago in this comment by @LuciusVorenusX -

New Dashboard UI

In addition to all of the “Add Sentence” options that are gone (mentioned above by @morbrorper and discussed here), another thing seems to have vanished; that is, the Download button that used to be under the “Favorites” block of the old dashboard. As I recall, this was used mainly when people wanted to download groups of built in sentences to upload to custom collections. You could add the sentences to the Favorites, download the Favorites, make whatever changes were needed then reupload the f…

A specific process using the Favorites download button when moving sentences between collections was laid out in this thread (oooooh, look, it was written by me! ) -

Move sentences from one collection to another?

Hi @fyark, There is a way to do it, but it requires you to get your hands dirty with a spreadsheet. I’m also assuming here that you have access to a PC to do this on (you may be able to do it on a tablet/phone, but I haven’t tried). Go to the collection that contains the sentences that you want to move. Click on the “manage sentences” button. Now Favourite the sentences that you want to move. There may be quite a lot of these, on multiple pages. When you’ve favourited all the senten…

Now, in my particular case I would be more than happy (elated , overjoyed etc.) if a bulk copy-to-collection button were added on the Manage Collections pane (currently copy-to-collection has to be done one sentence at a time).

Such a bulk copy-to-collection button could easily replace (and be a much better solution) for the use case that I highlighted in that old thread.

So, would that be an option that you could implement instead @mike ?

I can think of other reasons where I might to want to download sentences and then upload them again with modifications into a new collection, so a download option might still be useful (e.g. bulk editing of sentences could be much quicker by using the download/upload option with external editing/scripting even when Clozemaster has the facilities to make the same edits).

Perhaps @CLD92 has a different use case.

P.S.
I realise that previously we were downloading/uploading sentences that were not proprietary as they were sourced from Tatoeba, and that now with the new FFT you have proprietary content (intellectual property) of which you may be quite protective. Therefore, whilst I am loathe to see a facility such as the Favorites download disappear, I am looking for alternatives that might fit in with your business model, such as a bulk copy-to-collection button (mmmm, now did I by any chance mention a bulk copy-to-collection button previously somewhere in this message ? ).
P.P.S.
I may even have mentioned a bulk copy-to-collection button somewhere before -

Feature Request - Enhanced Manage Sentences Options

Feature Request: I would like to see the following additions to the Manage Sentences capability - A button for the existing Copy to Collection feature in the list of “Apply to all on current page”. A button for the existing Delete from Collection feature in the list of “Apply to all on current page” (I recognize that this is dangerous, so the current - or enhanced - situation of confirmation popups is required). As with the current facility for deleting individual entries, this would only be …

[zzcguns]

By the way @mike, is there any possibility that the Manage Sentences button (the hamburger icon) for the individual collections could be returned to being a first-class button/icon for each collection, rather than being buried under the “…” icon ?

As Manage Sentences is the search facility for each collection, I use that facility all the time, and judging by posts in this forum, so do many other people (e.g. I was delighted to see that you recently added the ability to search by “Marked as Known”, which is one such example of you responding to people using that facility).

Help us improve Clozemaster! What would you most like to see added, changed, or improved?

Added! [Screenshot 2024-09-21 at 3.13.02 PM]

[Xandra]

I liked how it was before

I was hoping we would get a review collection button added to the top of each collection, but now I can’t even see all the collections and my progress in them. If there was too much clutter before I think making each collection collapsible with would have fixed that.

IMO the stretched out mobile-type look is also awkward and makes poor use of space. I think it would be a bit better if instead of having “Play” across the whole screen, it had “play” and “review” options for each set. I’ve always found it odd and annoying that I can’t just review the section I’m looking at, I have to instead click review from the top of the page and choose the section I want.

[paris2020]

That’s an interesting solution, except that I was reviewing these sentences not from the “review all” option but actually selecting the collection to review them from the “Ready to review” box. I suppose I might not be the norm, but I wanted to only pin the collections from which I was learning new words. And anything that I have completely “played” and only has review to do, I only want to access them from the “Ready to review” box and not from the general dashboard.

In short, I was imagining a more static dashboard that’s driven solely by my decision to pin or unpin to the dashboard.

[paris2020]

One suggestion for those collections that automatically get pinned to the dashboard that have no new sentences to play - to turn the “play” button into “review” button. Currently it shows a grayed out play button, so it’s really not help to have them pinned to the dashboard. If I can at least directly review those collection with one button from dashboard, then I can see some value in having them pinned.

[Spielratte]

I hate it too. None of the changes made it better. Some made it worse. I vote for a roll-back.

[JioMc]

Here are some examples of the type of changes we love to see from Clozemaster —

More sentences! Such as the brilliant fast track series you have been rolling out recently, so good! Welsh even!

More languages! There are at least three or four major African languages just sitting there for the picking over on Tatoeba!

Groovy new functions! Such as my objectively awesome suggestion of randomised clozes, which I’ve been suggesting for three or four years now!

Here’s an example of the type of changes we DON’T love —

Having to spend 20 minutes looking for a crucial button that used to be in a prominent and intuitive position!

Clozemaster, you already have all the style that anybody could ask for. All that remains for you to do is to continue filling out your substance, which is already utterly unique!

All of which is to say – very dismayed and bored by the recent changes. Sorry, but it’s the truth.

[morbrorper]

I’m sorry to have to agree with the negative sentiment here, but there were already
many glitches and shortcomings that could have been addressed before taking on a big UI overhaul. Just to mention a few:

• Integrate the “new” Fast Track with global search.
• Improvements for keyboard users: there are many inconsistencies in how the Enter and Esc keys are handled in different dialogs.
• Display the Easy, Normal and Hard buttons as soon as one reaches 100%, not only on recurring review.
• Use a press of a percentage icon to immediately set the current level of mastery without having to “edit” the sentence.
• Add the option to hide the entire sentence in the target language, to let the user attempt to translate the full sentence before focusing on the cloze at hand.

And this is just my list.

[Xandra]

Oh I would love it if the play button turned into review button for the ones with no new sentences!!

[martijk]

The download button was the only reason for me to pay for this service. I like the content and want to support it, but I need to be able to export to Anki for my learning needs. I’m very sad that this has disappeared and I won’t be extending my subscription unless it returns.

[rikdries]

I prefer the old style format .
Someone wrote: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Why do we have to constantly mess with things that work just fine?
That is exactly what I think about this now.
Why not leave us the choice with a button : OLD STYLE FORMAT ?

[corgwin24]

If you download all the content, you won’t need the subscription anyway, right? I found the lifetime subscription to be reasonably priced and supports the project development and developers.

It would be nice to have an offline mode. There are times that I don’t have internet.

[martijk]

Anki has a better algorithm (FSRS), but I like to pay for the content and the updates/corrections. My first year is almost finished and I was planning to either extend for a year or go for the lifetime subscription after the year ends.

[corgwin24]

Thank you for explaining. Anki lets you make decks and make available to others, so probably the developers need to control access to their content. I appreciate your dilemma of liking the tool. I didn’t love Anki myself, clozemaster has been one of my favorite tools for learning a language.

[martijk]

The people that like to steal the collections and share them elsewhere can still get them by scraping, whereas honest customers like me want something that’s supported and where they can rely on. Not only do I like Anki’s algorithm better, but I also don’t like the idea of my progress data being owned by an external party that can cease to exist at any time, especially since I’m planning to use the Clozemaster collections for many years (with a subscription if it allows me to keep them up to date).

And think about this: you can get large Anki vocabulary decks based on word frequency lists for free, including ones with sample sentences. What’s unique about Clozemaster is that they get updated with the help of a community. The learning tools and the cloze sentences are not unique selling point.

[corgwin24]

apologies, I don’t mean to accuse. You have made it clear that you wouldn’t do it. Too bad that there are people that would. So content creators need to protect their content as best they can.